Jack Potter made more (from the USPS) than you did last year

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Former PMG Jack Potter

It has been almost five years now since Jack Potter retired as Postmaster General, so you might be surprised to learn that he’s still on the payroll- and he probably made more than you did last year. According to a recent OIG report, Potter was paid $110,625 in “deferred compensation” last year. Deferred compensation is a way of getting around federal executive salary caps- pay in excess of the cap in a given year goes in to a deferred compensation fund, to be doled out after the executive has left the USPS. Potter had over a million dollars accumulated in his fund when he retired. After receiving his payment last year, he has over a half million left. Potter is currently the President and CEO of the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority, where he is paid a reported $350 thousand a year, with up to a 20% annual bonus.

Potter isn’t the highest paid former USPS exec- that honor goes to Ross Philo. If the name doesn’t ring a bell, it’s understandable- Ross was CIO for just three years, from 2008 to 2011. Despite his brief tenure, he managed to pile up a deferred compensation fund of $642,999 before he left, on top of his regular salary, capped at $230,000. He was paid $150,111 last year, and still has over $450K of USPS customers’ money to look forward to in the coming years.

  • mingoman

    its a disgrace and we have not received a raise as middle management in four+ years

  • tabletman

    I thought you got a 1% raise last year? ?

  • old letter carrier

    You really have to wonder what is going on at the USPS! The BOG needs to be held responsible for the compensation of senior officers.

  • Marcus1956

    Disgraceful in every way.

  • hook

    Federal wage earners covered by the US Budget got a 1% raise last year..the USPS is not funded by the US Budget, it is funded via the products/services it sells/provides.

  • tabletman

    January 25, 2014 Postmaster and Supervisor received 1% raise. I just google it to get date, I remember ladt year management was complaining only getting 1% raise.

  • Poor Richard

    Oh, goody..!

    Here’s where I get to tell you “middle management” folks a few things similar to what you tell us craft employees.

    It goes like this….

    “IF YOU DON’T LIKE BEING COMPENSATED FOR FAR BEYOND WHAT YOU’RE ACTUALLY WORTH IN THE USPS, YOU CAN ALWAYS QUIT, AND TAKE YOUR AWESOME MANAGERIAL SKILLS AND EGOS SOMEPLACE ELSE. YOU SHOULD BE CONFIDENT KNOWING YOU KISSED YOUR WAY UP THE LADDER WITH NOTHING MORE THAN A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION, AND THERE SHOULD BE LOTS OF OTHER PLACES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR MORE THAN WILLING TO PAY YOU MORE THAN YOUR PRESENT “POSITION” IN THE USPS DOES.”

    The USPS still has too many people who don’t touch the mail on the payroll.

  • Angry Al

    I just laugh when I hear an overpaid EAS employee complain about not getting a pay raise in over four years when the gravy train was all good under Potter and you got way bigger raises percentage wise under PFP than craft employees.And having looked at EAS employees salaries there are way too many of them making six figure incomes for a high school diploma and minimal skills! cry me a river!!

  • cdr

    I don’t feel bad for any supervisors, no one told them that they had to go into management. They usually get into management, because they couldn’t do craft work, or because they kissed someone’s you know what. Sometimes that seems to be the only two requirements for getting in management. But I am exaggerating a little. The funny thing is, the truly qualified people with bachelor degrees and master degrees, can’t either get into management. Or if they’re in management, they’re a threat to the GED wonders that are above them, so they don’t go anywhere. And remember in the P.O., nepotism doesn’t discriminate.

  • Horatio Alger

    Caps lock key get stuck?

    You actually make a good point, unintentionally. Both craft and management in the USPS are much better off than they would be if they had to make it in the private sector. I worked in management for most of my career, and I never heard a fellow manager talk about how well qualified they were, or how much more they could make in the private sector. All of the managers I worked with had degrees, including a number that had MBAs- from real colleges, too, not diploma mills. A lot of craft employees I worked with also had degrees- including some MBAs, and at least one PhD!

    So what?

    Believe it or not, a college degree doesn’t make you an expert manager.

    As for “kissing your way up the ladder”, welcome to the real world! Do you seriously think that people in the private sector get jobs and promotions solely because they are plucky, hard working and industrious? Do you think small business owners hire their relatives for the same reasons? In the real world you either become a team player or you’re fired. In the USPS you can hang on indefinitely as long as you do the minimum necessary to avoid termination.

    I know this, because I’ve worked, as craft and as management, for a few managers who were asshats. I gave them the work product they deserved. Several would have fired me if they could have, but I made sure I never gave them sufficient cause for any discipline at all. If I’d been working in the private sector I’d have been gone in a heartbeat. By and large, though, most of the managers I worked with were decent people- as were most of the craft employees.

    So calm down, turn off caps lock, and reflect on the fact that after all these years you’re still ranting, but you yourself haven’t moved on. Everything you say about supervisors and managers applies equally to craft employees- you’ve got a pretty good deal- enjoy it while you can!

  • Just curious!

    Gee you poor little thing! What gave you the idea that any supervisor ever cared if you “felt bad” about them? Maybe you should get over your “sour grapes” complex (“I can’t get promoted, therefore getting promoted must be A Bad Thing”).

    What is it about this horrible corrupt system that drives you to stay? Couldn’t someone with your sterling qualities be a Big Success almost anywhere?

    Or do you just enjoy having a steady, well paying job despite your own lack of any real skills or talent?

    Just curious!

  • RetiredPM2009

    Woo hoo, 1% is a big deal. Probably $5 more per month take home. I was a Postmaster from 1992-2009 when I retired. In 1993, USPS took away Cost of Living adjustments for EAS employees. The plan was to take it from us first and then from the craft. Never happened, because your unions wouldn’t allow it. But it was gone from us forever. Yes, under Potter I got several years of 8% increases. But that barely made up for all of the years that I didn’t get a COLA when you did. The Districts micro-manage PMs so bad that they can’t really do their jobs because they are following so many checklists. I was happy to take my early out, even without any type of bonus (like craft got). I’m out in the real world, living on less, but happy as a clam.

  • Mr.Mailman

    No way you should get COLA’s on top of the 8% increases!,PFP replaced COLA’s for EAS employees and meant you got significantly bigger pay increases percentage wise than craft employees so you have nothing to whine about. Craft under the current contracts awarded by arbitrators only got a 3.5% pay increase over the five years,plus we got an increase in our contribution to our health care.The only good thing Donahoe did as PMG was put a pay freeze on the overpaid EAS employees!

  • Horatio Alger

    Calm down little man! You get COLA’s on top of step increases and contract increases, remember? Supervisors don’t get any of those! PFP is it- and it hasn’t been 8% for anyone for years, so get over it.!

    If you still think PFP is such a great deal, apply for a promotion. If you don’t want to be in management, then shut up and get back to work- what other people make is none of your business!

    I will give you some advice you’ll surely ignore- things are not going to get better for you, whether you’re craft or management. That’s just the way this country is going, unfortunately. But you do have the option of trying to improve yourself financially by pursuing a higher paying job, whether in the USPS or outside of it. You’ll at least be making more than you are now, and if you stay in the USPS, it’ll help your pension situation.

    Of course, if you’ve made enemies of everyone in management where you work, you’re probably screwed- but if so, that was a decision YOU made, so live with it and accept that you’re stuck where you are.

  • rdc1959@hotmail.com

    LOL! You’re an idiot, you must be in management. I am stating the facts as I’ve seen this with my own eyes over and over. I could have retired a year ago. This isn’t about me, this is a blog about over paid benefits for supervisors. I am in the craft and have been for 37 years. Also a proud APWU member. If I didn’t like working for the P.O. , I would have left a long time ago. I was also smart enough not to get into management. But obviously I am still here, so I don’t think my sour grapes are the issue?
    “Or do you just enjoy having a steady, well paying job despite your own lack of any real skills or talent? The answer is YES!! You hit the nail on the head!! After all I am a postal worker and you my friend are a moron, LOL!
    Just curious!

  • just curious

    Amazing but true! A guy who begins and ends his comment with “LOL!” calls someone else a moron?!

    But seriously, good for you! You recognize that you got a job that pays you far more than you’re worth! But I don’t think you understand what people mean when they talk about “sour grapes”. Of course you didn’t “get into management”- you couldn’t. That’s my point! So you decide that trying for a promotion is A Bad Thing that you were “smart enough not to” do!

    So you’re halfway there- you recognize that you are overpaid for what you do, but you still have a problem with the fact that other people have done much better than you, by showing some initiative, and getting a better paying job. I started with the USPS around the same time you did. I retired five years ago- and I get paid more from my pension than you get paid for working full time! (And I still have a nice fat TSP account!)

    All I can say is, LOL!

  • Guest

    It’s amazing how these postal supervisors always think they’re superior to craft and belittle them.
    We see through your cloud of bull shit. You’re nothing more than a parrot relaying what the chain of command is telling you what to do.
    This whole crisis with the PAEA could have been avoided, if the USPS would have actually gave good customer service instead of turning away business at the door. I’ve been turned away at the door 20 minutes before closing.
    Your peers whined about emails and technology, instead of embracing and retooling for e commerce.
    This whole mess is from Postal Management’s lack of vision, don’t kid yourself, and think you’re superior to craft. Take your cracker and enjoy it.

  • Guest

    PFP were reinstated right after the exigent price increases went into effect.

    Here is a letter from Doug Tulino- VP of Labor Releations

    http://www.naps.org/images/uploads/EAS_Salary_Increase_Notification.pdf

  • Horatio Alger

    Yup, and meanwhile you got your COLA and step increases.

    So what?

  • Guest

    We received 1 cola because the economy was getting better. You don’t receive a step increase after working 10 years. You top out at level O. I guess that tells us how long you were craft.
    Yes I was asked, no I didn’t want it. I’m not the type that can stand around and do nothing all day.

  • Just curious!

    And you’re obviously a bitter little man who knows he could have done more with his life, but was too lazy.

    I don’t think I’m superior to you- to be honest, I couldn’t care less about you. But I also don’t think I’m inferior to people who’ve done better than me, whether it’s Jack Potter or Bill Gates, or whomever.

    I made my choices, and I’m happy with how things have worked out for me. You made yours, and obviously you are bitter about how your life has turned out.

    Guess what? Nobody cares!

    Oh- and a little news flash for you- USPS policy decisions are made by the BOG and the Headquarters staff. Supervisors and middle managers have even less say than, say, mail handlers, who at least have a union with bargaining rights. As far as PCES execs and officers are concerned, everyone below them are monkeys. Some of the monkeys may wear ties, some may wear suits, but they’re all still monkeys.

    Hope this helps!

  • Horatio Alger

    Well of course you were “asked”! That’s how people get promoted- they’re “asked”, right?

    So get back to work, OK?

  • Guest

    Bitter and Lazy? I don’t think so. I know not to waste my time trying to fix a dysfunctional bureaucracy. Whose sole goal is to make the top echelon rich at the expense of others.
    I won’t go deep into it, but I go out there and fight for those who can’t fight for themselves. The same people that society tries to ignore.
    This job gives me the resources to do just that. A livable wage, but don’t have to worry about the job after my 8 hours.
    I’m not bitter nor lazy, I have a different outlook of life than just me me me.

  • Just curious!

    Well good for you! When did anyone ever suggest that you were the individual who could “fix a dysfunctional bureaucracy”? Is that what you were “asked”??

    ‘m glad you apparently have found something to do with your free time! Lots of us do similar things with our lives. For most of us, it adds some perspective, and we realize that we are far better off than we deserve, and should show more humility and less bitterness. Hopefully you will eventually discover that too!

  • Guest

    Argumentative and twisting of words. You must be a pleasure to have around. Low level supervisor with quite a few EEO’s under her belt.

  • Just curious!

    Well aren’t you the clever little monkey! Yes, sunshine, I was being argumentative. And do you know what that great big word actually means? No, I didn’t think so!

    “given to expressing divergent or opposite views.”

    You and I disagree. So when we express our views, we are both being argumentative. Got that? Does that hurt your feelings or something?

    And what words did I twist? You told us you were “asked”, presumably,given the context, to be part of management. You then said that you refused to “fix a dysfunctional bureaucracy”. As if you had been asked to somehow solve all the postal service’s problems! I didn’t make it up, cupcake- you wrote it!

    And I retired as an EAS 23- Never had an EEO complaint, and settled all of the very few grievances filed against me at step 1. My policy was to avoid the grievance procedure, and either convince the steward I was right, or admit that I was wrong. Works almost every time!

  • retiredpm2009

    Good advice Horatio. As I said I retired in 2009. Those big raises were in 2006-2008. My local Postmaster tells me they have not had a raise in 4 years and PFP no longer exists. Craft raises are based on longevity. EAS is based on performance.

  • Guest

    We do have opposing views, but when you grab statements from 2 different post, and link them out of context, it is a twisting of words.

    I was asked years back to supervise. I didn’t want to stand around and do nothing, so I declined.
    This was way before these issues of serious financial deficits.

    They never asked me to fix this dysfunctional bureaucracy.
    This is what I said,” I know not to waste my time trying to fix a dysfunctional bureaucracy.”
    Responding to your bitter for not doing more with my life.

  • Just curious!

    Golly is my face red! I had no idea it was against the rules to quote from two different comments that YOU posted. But where I come from, you don’t get “asked” by your fairy godmother to become a supervisor- you apply for the job, just like in the real world. You obviously knew that you couldn’t handle it, so you adopted the “sour grapes” excuse that you didn’t want to “stand around and do nothing”. Fair enough- if it makes you feel better to demonize people who make different choices, go for it.

    But you did make the comment ” I know not to waste my time trying to fix a dysfunctional bureaucracy” in the context of your decision not to apply for a promotion. That isn’t twisting- that’s quoting what you said, and it was very much in context.

    I have lots of friends who decided to remain mail handlers, carriers, whatever. I certainly respect the decisions they made. But they also respect the decision I made to take a different route. That’s life- it’s just too bad that there are a few bitter individuals like yourself who can’t understand that.

  • Guest

    You get asked to be a 204B, then you apply at a later time. I didn’t want to go through that route and very happy with my decision.

    I don’t like the fact and I have heard management say to a few people. “What is it about this horrible corrupt system that drives you to stay? Couldn’t someone with your sterling qualities be a Big Success almost anywhere?

    Or do you just enjoy having a steady, well paying job despite your own lack of any real skills or talent?”

    I don’t have sour grapes for not choosing to be part of the dysfunctional bureaucracy. I have an issue with comments like that.
    The arrogance you parrots have is unreal.

  • Phaedrus

    Who cares whether or not you’re happy with your decision? You’re a pathetic whiner who feels he has to insult people who made different choices. It isn’t arrogance to point that out.

    Now here’s your bedtime story:

    “Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked ‘Oh, you aren’t even ripe yet! I don’t need any sour grapes.’ People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain would do well to apply this story to themselves.”

    Ring a bell?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes

  • Guest

    Postal Management always think everyone is jealous of their position. The Arrogance of these do nothings.
    Majority of you couldn’t make it in the private sector with your lack of skills, and education. Nobody should be jealous of that.

  • Guest

    Then you were a rarity in the autocratic management,who rarely admits they are wrong or screwed up.

  • Mr.Mailman

    Unless you were in bad with manager you got your pay raise no matter how you performed,if your facility did well.

  • Just curious!

    Is English your first language? You don’t seem to comprehend very well. Go back and read my previous comments. I never gave any indication that I thought “everyone is jealous” of my “position”. I made more money than you- if that bothers you, try not to think about it. You worked a job where you had much less responsibility- you thought that was a good trade off- good for you! A lot of people I really like and respect made the same decision as you. The difference is that they respect me and my decision, and I respect them and their decision.

    I also said that most postal workers, craft or management, are much better off than they would be in the private sector.

    I’m not jealous of you, and I don’t really care whether you’re jealous of me- to be honest, I don’t particularly care what you think about anything.

    Feel better now?

  • Guest

    Is English your first language? I was addressing Phaedrus. I’m not going to read the rest of your paragraph. It’s long winded and you’re not worth my time.

  • postal worker bruce

    I thought we were supposed to be totally broke by now.